in definition and substance, especially on the women's issues. this really kind of tees it up for president obama, doesn't it? >> absolutely. i think what people are going to see over the next several nights is more of a visuion, more specifics, more detail. >> will they get a bounce? >> i think we'll get a bounce because people will say, okay, that i understand, that i can vote for, that i support. it firths underscored for people how light on the details things were last week with the romney speech. i will say, it will be a modest bounce because i think it's really going to be mid-september when we see where the race really stands. >> romney not campaigning this week. good strategy? >> i was a little surprised by that. he's got paul ryan out there actually doing his dirty work, but that being said, we've heard he's doing debate prep. look, you know the president is an excellent debater, and governor romney better come prepared and he's going to have to come prepared with facts, not just platitudes. >> karen finney, great to have you with us. thanks so much.